Vivek Ramaswamy is a successful entrepreneur who created a biotech company. Now he’s running for president.

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“As a businessperson, you’re saving lives…why politics?” I ask.

“I think there is an opportunity to drive a national revival in our country,” he tells me. “I couldn’t think of a better way to do it than to…get elected U.S. president.”

Ramaswamy is obviously a long shot, but his arguments–that America has become a nation of victims, and that some on Wall St now collude with government to cripple capitalism–made me want to learn more about him.

Here is our full interview.